Emmy-winning sportscaster and journalist Bob Costas, accompanied by author Caitlin Flanagan, delved into a comprehensive analysis of the Democratic Party’s trajectory and the prospects of President Joe Biden’s candidacy for the 2024 election on HBO’s Real Time With Bill Maher.
In the course of their discussion, Costas articulated a compelling perspective on the imperative for Biden to recognize the collective interests of both his party and the nation. He contended that should Biden’s “hubris” obstruct the possibility of him stepping aside as the Democratic nominee, the party should proactively take measures to consider alternative candidates. Costas asserted that Biden’s ascent to the presidency primarily resulted from being positioned as an alternative to Donald Trump rather than securing a mandate based on his merit.
Highlighting concerns about Biden’s mental acuity, Costas acknowledged that while Republicans and Fox News might exaggerate these shortcomings, there is a kernel of truth to those worries, persisting for several years. He emphasized the necessity of addressing these concerns, even if doing so proved uncomfortable or unpopular.
Maher drew attention to Biden’s past statement about viewing himself as a “bridge,” suggesting an interpretation that could imply a single-term presidency. Maher posited that the Democratic Party might still have the opportunity to reconsider Biden as the nominee, potentially even at the convention or shortly before the election.
Flanagan contributed to the discussion by noting that due to Biden’s limited competition in the primaries, he lacks a substantial number of delegates that would preclude the party from exploring other candidates.
Costas drew parallels to historical precedents, citing President Lyndon B. Johnson’s decision not to seek another term, which led to the emergence of alternative candidates. He stressed that there remains ample time for the Democratic Party to make such a pivotal decision.
In essence, the conversation underscored the mounting apprehensions within the Democratic Party concerning Biden’s candidacy and the conceivable necessity for a leadership change to secure the party’s viability in forthcoming elections.
JESSE WATTERS: GINA, WHY DO YOU THINK, AFTER ALL OF THE THINGS SAID AND DONE BY ACTORS AND ACTRESSES OF ALL POLITICAL STRIPES, YOU WERE SPECIFICALLY TARGETED?
CARANO: THAT’S A GOOD QUESTION.
I THINK MAYBE BECAUSE I’M A BIT UNASSUMING, I AM EASY TO WORK WITH, AND I THINK, SOMETIMES — IF YOU ASKED ANYBODY ON THAT SET, THEY WOULD SAY, I WAS THE MOST NON-CONTROVERSIAL PERSON. BUT I THINK, LIKE WE HAVE SEEN ALL OVER AMERICA, A LOT OF US ARE GETTING SICK AND TIRED.
AND SO I THINK THAT I WAS A BIT UNASSUMING IN STANDING UP. AND I THINK THAT’S WHY I WAS TARGETED.
WATTERS: WHAT HAVE YOU LEARNED FROM ALL OF THIS? I MEAN, YOU WERE AT ONE OF THE BIGGEST PERCHES IN THE ENTERTAINMENT FIELD. AND NOW, NEXT DAY, YOU WERE CANCELED.
CARANO: WHAT I HAVE LEARNED IS THAT, IF THIS CAN HAPPEN TO ME, THIS CAN HAPPEN TO ANYONE!
I AM EASY TO WORK WITH, AND I AM PASSIONATE ABOUT WHAT WE DO. I AM ALWAYS EXCITED TO BE ON SET. I EVEN WORKED WITH THEM AS MUCH AS I POSSIBLY COULD TO RESOLVE ANY ISSUES THAT THEY HAD. BUT, EVENTUALLY, YOU HAVE A LINE. AND WHEN THAT LINE GETS CROSSED, YOU JUST HAVE TO SAY, ENOUGH. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
AND IF I LOOK BACK ON WHAT I — IF I WOULD HAVE CAVED AND I WOULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING THAT DISRESPECTED MYSELF, THEN I WOULDN’T BE DOING ANY FAVORS TO THE NEXT GENERATION, TO MY NIECES, TO YOUR CHILDREN. AND I FELT LIKE, SINCE I DIDN’T HAVE ANY CHILDREN, I WAS A PERSON THAT COULD STAND UP AND SAY SOME THINGS.
AND THE THINGS THAT I SAID WERE SO GENTLE. THEY WEREN’T AGGRESSIVE. THEY WERE NEVER WITH ILL INTENT. THEY WERE NEVER MALICIOUS. AND THAT’S HOW I KNOW, BECAUSE I WAS SO CONSCIOUS THAT, IF THIS CAN HAPPEN TO ME, THIS WILL HAPPEN TO YOU. AND IF WE JUST PASS THIS ALONG TO THE NEXT GENERATION, IT’S JUST GOING TO GET WORSE AND WORSE.
WATTERS: WELL, IT’S GOOD ADVICE, BECAUSE PEOPLE, YOUNG AMERICANS COME UP TO ME ALL THE TIME, AND THEY SAY, JESSE, I LOVE WHAT YOU SAY. I BELIEVE THE SAME THING. BUT AT MY JOB OR MY COLLEGE, I CAN’T REALLY SAY THAT, BECAUSE I WILL GET IN TROUBLE. AND WHAT DO I DO?
IT’S VERY HARD TO NAVIGATE THIS CRAZY WORLD THAT WE LIVE IN.
CARANO: YES. I HAVE…
WATTERS: SO, I GUESS YOUR STORY IS VERY INSPIRING TO A LOT OF PEOPLE, GINA.
CARANO: I HAVE PEOPLE AT THESE FAN EXPOS THAT I ABSOLUTELY LOVE. AND I HAVE THEM COMING UP IN TEARS, AND MASS AMOUNTS OF PEOPLE COME UP IN TEARS AND JUST THANK ME FOR TAKING A STAND, THANK ME FOR SAYING THE THINGS THAT I SAID.
AND THAT HAS MADE IT ALL WORTH IT. NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS, THAT HAS MADE IT ALL WORTH IT. AND I REALLY APPLAUD ELON MUSK AND X FOR CHAMPIONING ME IN THIS LAWSUIT. AND I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR LOVE AND SUPPORT OUT THERE. AND I HOPE I MAKE YOU PROUD.
WATTERS: OH, WELL, WE FEEL THAT. THANKS, GINA. AND GOOD LUCK ON THE LITIGATION. AND KEEP US POSTED.
CARANO: THANK YOU.